International, NATO, Russia, ukraine
Ucraina, NATO si Stratfor
SB1: i saw this stratfor report today. saying that ukraine is basically giving up its NATO membership bid. what do you know about it? i didn’t see it confirmed in any mainstream news sources
FR: i saw that too. i don’t know much about it. but i do know that stratfor is highly biased. i stopped reading after the 2nd sentence. if ukraine is abandoning nato accession it is doing so only partly because of russian pressure; the major reason is that over 70% of ukranians are opposed
SB1: so now they called a referendum. which is the same as saying they are giving up the bid
FR: yeah. personally, i’ve been against the idea from the start. i don’t want ukraine controlled by russia as much as anyone
SB1: sure
FR: but one also can’t ignore ukranian societal and demographic realities
SB1: that’s true. ukraine is complicated
FR: yeah
SB1: what do you think about stratfor’s sources, esp on the FSU
FR: piss poor
SB1: they are coming out with all sorts of weird reports. like that one about russia’s retaliatory options after kosovo
FR: i think they are wasington beltway biased
SB1: they even mentioned finland there
FR: ah right
FR: haha. stratfor is OK on middle east stuff i think. but the russia stuff is biased, poorly sourced, and far too zanyy
SB1: fun read though
07 Mar 2008 Skybar One